Child Snatching

Child snatching aka state kidnapping is a glib way of describing what is too terrible to be true, too hard to imagine and thus too unbelievable. Christopher Booker uses the term in his weekly column of The Telegraph:

Based on my observation of white collar crimes, it’s the tip of the iceberg reflected by these online petitions:

  1. The Secrecy of Family Courts should be lifted NOW! with remarkable comments – aimed at the Family Division
  2. Abolish the Secrecy in the Family Courts and Remove the Gagging Orders – aimed at the Ministry of Justice
  3. Children Placed in Foster Care – before the House of Commons, for the Justice & Education Select Committee as well as Government and Ministry of Education
  4. Abolish Adoptions without Parental Consent – third petition for the EU Petitions Committee
  5. Stop Secret Family Courts Encouraging Forced Adoptions in the UK – second publication for the EU Petitions Committee
  6. Stop Forced Adoptions in the UK!  – first publication for the EU Petitions Committee
  7. Send the Musa Family back home – WITH their children – acknowledged to be the worst of all child snatching cases – where all ‘evidence’ was fabricated AFTER the children were taken without paper work, the parents were criminalised and given SEVEN years of imprisonment in a completely staged trial with a rigged jury.

Here are the events that I have experienced:

And here are those cases that we have assisted: 

1. The child given to the abusive father:

  • Vicky Haigh – the first mother to be named in Parliament – Doncaster Council
  • Audrone I – the mother who won her case in the Supreme Court in Lithuania – Brent Council.

2. Parent deported so that child can be kept for adoption

  • Melissa Laird – US mother dumped in Dulles airport – Barnet Council
  • Many cases get ‘disposed’ of as soon as parents are deported.

3. Parents imprisoned so that children can be kept in permanent care and adopted

4. Children adopted without trace in court

  • Phil Thompson – a greatgrandfather’s 3 children removed by Walsall Council.

More on Social Services stealing children as well as

Please fill in this form to tell the online world – anonymously of course:

183 Responses to Child Snatching

  1. Pingback: Already on April 5, 2001: Legal Mafia is failing public « Victims Unite!

  2. Pingback: Statement of Intent to bring about Justice for our Children and victims of illegal practices « Victims Unite!

  3. Pingback: It happened in Bristol: Maurice, for once, felt listened to as a Litigant in Person - 02 Legal Battles

  4. Pingback: My first visit to Berlin Prison – on Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s footsteps « Victims Unite!

  5. Pingback: So far, 12 MPs signed Early Day Motion re Expert Witnesses in Family Courts | This Nigerian Family wants to go Home – WITH their Six Kidnapped Children!

  6. Pingback: METRO opens its web doors to victims of child snatching | McKenzie Friends as Public Interest Advocates

  7. Pingback: UK Social Services may have overstepped the mark laid down by EU law | This Nigerian Family wants to go Home – WITH their Six Kidnapped Children!

  8. Pingback: What does it cost the taxpayer when Social Services steal children? « Victims Unite!

  9. Pingback: Is Britain more corrupt than it thinks? I guess it depends on who’s thinking! « Victims Unite!

  10. Pingback: Unconvicted Political Prisoners in London and Cardiff: innocent until found guilty??? | McKenzie Friends as Public Interest Advocates

  11. Pingback: Judiciary Guilty of Criminal Acts – John Hemming MP opens Demo at Royal Courts of Justice | McKenzie Friends as Public Interest Advocates

  12. Pingback: The Musas in Appeal Court – during Demo outside – with John Hemming MP | This Nigerian Family wants to go Home – WITH their Six Kidnapped Children!

  13. Pingback: Hello! « Punishment without Crime

  14. Pingback: Starting Monday May 21st, Criminal Jury Trial scheduled for 4 weeks in Wood Green Court, London | This Nigerian Family wants to go Home – WITH their Six Kidnapped Children!

  15. Pingback: Haringey Council: worst child snatching case in criminal court for 4 weeks, starting today « Publicity Online

  16. Anonymous says:

    Sir Nicholas Wall strikes again…
    To give a full indication of the calibre of lawyers that are appointed as family law judges, please read the below about the now infamous “Sir” Nicholas Wall (Head of the UK family court):
    Sir Nicholas Wall allows his Family Court judges to oversee cases while on holiday, hundreds of miles away;
    Sir Nicholas Wall ruled that the compensation a man received after he lost a leg in a traffic accident should be shared equally with his ex-wife as part of a divorce settlement. The £500,000 was awarded to compensate the poor man for a future life of disability;
    Sir Nicholas Wall ruled that the ex-husband of a millionaires should only be paid £5,000,000 of her £55,000,000 fortune;
    Sir Nicholas Wall argues “time for no fault divorces”;
    Sir Nicholas Wall suggested that unmarried couples should have equal rights to property as married couples;

    John Hemming MP lodges an official complaint to judicial ombudsman about Sir Nicholas. The reference to a forged document been accepted as evidence;

    August 2011 – “Sir” Nicholas Wall argues family Court proceedings must be held in private;
    November 2011 – Sir Nicholas Wall argues there should be much more transparency for family court proceedings;
    I could give another 20 examples of this same elk…
    If “Sir” Nicholas Wall (the 67-year-old lawyer at the helm of the UK family court) is not prosecuted for his involvement in this case, he must then be remembered in history as the produce that superseded TEFLON. Clearly nothing sticks…

  17. Pingback: Prayers and Publicity for the Musa Parents and their Seven Children | This Nigerian Family wants to go Home – WITH their now Seven Stolen Children!

  18. Pingback: Victims Unite at Wood Green Crown Court, Lordship Lane, London N22 5LF « Publicity Online

  19. Pingback: Wood Green in London: a court of fair trials and justice or partiality and corruption? « Victims Unite!

  20. Pingback: The third week of the trial in Wood Green Court – together with one of the worst Bankruptcies known so far | This Nigerian Family wants to go Home – WITH their now Seven Stolen Children!

  21. Pingback: International three-day fast and praying for the Musas starting today « Victims Unite!

  22. Pingback: What Do They Know about Children Snatched by Local Councils? « Punishment without Crime

  23. Pingback: Prison without Crime – due to a Judge who’s under the Spell of the President of Secret Family Courts « Punishment without Crime

  24. Pingback: New class of victims: inventors cheated out of their inventions by ‘patent protection’ « Victims Unite!

  25. Pingback: Yet another class of victims: servicemen who don’t get pensions they are entitled to « Victims Unite!

  26. Pingback: Demanding Investigation into Social Services snatching children under false pretences « Victims Unite!

  27. Pingback: Trying to Make Sense of Irrational Behaviour and Decisions | A Nigerian Family – Destroyed by Haringey Council – Gagged from Reporting

  28. Pingback: Seven Years for Child Cruelty and Lying Actress Michelle Collins - 02 Legal Battles

  29. Pingback: When Black British Foster Care Children are Victims of White Collar Crimes… « Victims Unite!

  30. Pingback: The “Absurdity of Social Services” on Slovak TV – incl. Protest in Nottingham « Victims Unite!

  31. Pingback: What is worse: getting your home or your children stolen? « Victims Unite!

  32. Pingback: Accountability & Illegality: our attempt to make a difference with Meetup | We Who Oppose Deception

  33. Pingback: German – British Musings about “The Rule of Law” and its Enforcement – on a Rainy Sunday « Victims Unite!

  34. Pingback: The Battle is long, the Struggle is Hard, while the Fight is Good… « My Bikram Yoga Story

  35. Pingback: We are under Occult Attack: Illuminati – The Cult that Hijacked the World « Victims Unite!

  36. Pingback: Can “The Power of We” stop Institutionalised Child Abuse? @BlogActionDay12 #powerofwe « Victims Unite!

  37. Pingback: Family Justice System and Family Courts + Leveson Inquiry to include Savile « Punishment without Crime

  38. Pingback: The World is Beginning to Watch Forced Adoptions: Slovak Documentary on Russia TV and India is Joining « Punishment without Crime

  39. Pingback: Five Mothers on Hunger Strike in HMP Holloway « Victims Unite!

  40. Pingback: Five Mothers on Hunger Strike in Holloway Prison, London – Protesting against Violation of Article 8: the Right to Family Life « Publicity Online

  41. Pingback: Seven Deadly Syndromes and Seven Media Cover-Ups – A Media Report by Public Interest Advocates « Publicity Online

  42. Pingback: The list of paedophile names in the hands of the Prime Minister – thanks to Philip Schofield on “This Morning” « Victims Unite!

  43. Pingback: Care Home Victims and the Mainstream vs Social Media in the wake of the Savile Scandal « Victims Unite!

  44. Pingback: Government Child ‘Protection’ Exposed in AUS, UK, US & CAN – to revisit Operation Ore? « Victims Unite!

  45. Pingback: How can anybody claim that foster ‘care’ is better than the love of these parents? « Victims Unite!

  46. Pingback: “We are looking at the biggest failure to protect children in the history of Britain”: Scallywag Magazine in the 90s « Victims Unite!

  47. Pingback: Victims of press and sexual abuse unite: ONLINE! « Victims Unite!

  48. Pingback: Hello! « Victims Talking Online

  49. Pingback: Prosecute the politicians responsible for the Secret Family Courts « Victims Unite!

  50. Pingback: Global Political Awakening: the Threat to the Global Elite and our Hope for the Future « Victims Unite!

  51. Pingback: The plane landed: the 2 Slovak boys are back after 920 days in ‘captivity’ « Victims Unite!

  52. kevin sole says:

    My daughter has been adopted today and my partner and i was never given anoth time to contest the adoption but social services and the judge still went ahead with the case im gonna expose social services for what they really are so who wants to join me.

    • Dear Kevin

      We all need to ‘up our ante’ by joining together as effectively as possible.

      There are actually quite a few groups on Facebook but I suspect that most victims are still feeling terribly isolated.

      Hence I’ve now set up to facilitate private meetings between group members and public meetings in the House of Commons that I’ve organised every so often.

      To challenge ‘wrongful adoptions’ in UK courts must be on top of our agenda!!!

      But we all need to become much more astute in balancing injustice with the right kind of online publicity, methinks.

      A New Year for new learning!

      May it result in turning your pain into success eventually!!!

  53. Pingback: Innocent and transferred to HMP The Verne in Dorset – for whatever Reasons | A Nigerian Family – Destroyed by Haringey Council – Gagged from Reporting

  54. Pingback: The Savile bomb continues to explode: he was part of a Satanic ring « From the Peace Bomb and the Money Bomb to the Climate Bomb

  55. Pingback: WHITE COLLAR CRIMES: an evidence-based definition « Victims Unite!

  56. Pingback: A ‘Shill Test’: do you believe the Hollie Greig story? « Victims Unite!

  57. Pingback: A VICTORY for Common Sense and the Rule of Law: child snatching and other news | Victims Unite!

  58. Pingback: THE POLICE STATE uses a Private Call Centre for Hiding Behind | Victims Unite!

  59. Pingback: THE DEATH OF JUSTICE for our Children is a head-hanging disgrace of which every Briton should be profoundly ashamed | Victims Unite!

  60. Pingback: BANNED from the UK: NATO Security Consultant because the “UK has been caught red handed stealing children” | Punishment without Crime

  61. Pingback: BANNED from the UK: NATO Security Consultant because the “UK has been caught red handed stealing children” | The MUSA CASE, MAURICE KIRK, NORMAN SCARTH, THE BAYLIS FAMILY, THE HOLLIE GREIG CASE – VICTIMS OF THE STATE…this site is being int

  62. Pingback: SORRY for ‘shameful’ forced adoptions and MONEY for records tracing and mental health care | Victims Unite!

  63. Pingback: #paedobritain #stopabusenow trended on Twitter: What can I do about ‘it’? | Victims Unite!

  64. Pingback: THE PAEDOFILE: Police blind-eye, judicial stitch-up and CPS bollocks | Punishment without Crime

  65. Pingback: AUSTERITY CUTS, lack of Compensation for Victims and more than 5,000 uncomfortable truths in Australia | Victims Unite!

  66. Pingback: WHEN WILL family abusers be brought to justice alongside the Professional Abusers (SS, Cafcass, judges, solicitors)? | Punishment without Crime

  67. You need to read this case, at last the courts are bringing a stop to this. This case describes how Haringey just make it all up.

    However, this time they picked on two social workers who took them apart.

  68. This is what happened to me with the same Sylvia Chew. I complained through the ombudsmen at the time and she wrote to the Ombudsman saying that initial and core assessments were not required. I instructed in judicial review, just as that case, and was charged £2000 for reading the papers and was quoted £18,000 to proceed. Since then I have done it myself.

    In the case of the Musa’s I have worked out how the criminal evidence was doctored. The Crown Prosecution Service have invented an offence called “excessive chastisement of a child”. There is no such offence. There are various assault charges for which a defence of reasonable chastisement can brought, i.e smacking.

    It is an offence under section 1(1) Children and Young Peoples Act 1933 and the offender is added to the schedule 1 offenders register, under the same act, as convicted of an offence against a child. This gives the police and security services access to all of confidential records, including health, under the pretext of child protection. They can then amend those records.


  69. Pingback: SAY IT IN hashtags: #childsnatchbritain leads to #paedobritain since the PIE Manifesto | Victims Unite!

  70. From very personal experience I can say wholeheartedly that very little if no good comes from social services or cafcass. That said it’s also very much down to useless courts and in my personal opinion corrupt an DEFFO very biased. In a court case isn’t it court duty to gather the evidence an look at it ALL then deliberate over it THEN MAKE A RULING and not just take one side over another….?… Is that any kind of justice or fairness…NOT AT ALL I SAY….AND NO USELESS GOVERNMENT WILL SILENCE ME WHILE I DRAW BREATH N HAVE INTERNET ACCESS…..CHEW THAT GOVERNMENT..

    • The family courts are there to SANCTION and LEGITIMISE what Social Services and their allies are doing. It couldn’t be more corrupt, heinous, unlawful and unethical.

      We got #paedobritain trending on 28th March. 19th July is the next target date. Meanwhile we just gotta keep kicking!

      Praised be the internet!

  71. Pingback: How social services are paid bonuses to snatch babies for adoption: Daily Mail 2008 | Punishment without Crime

  72. Pingback: How social services are paid bonuses to snatch babies for adoption – Daily Mail 2008 | Anti Oligarch

  73. Pingback: HELPLESS and Powerless? Web bullets for courageous hearts and minds | Victims Unite!

  74. Pingback: EVERYTHING you know about Crime is Wrong: dishonest money creates criminal behaviour | We Who Oppose Deception

  75. Pingback: STOP Forced Adoptions – stepping stones for criminal Social Services & #paedobritain | Victims Unite!

  76. Pingback: SECRECY: the Cloak of Criminality? Who can do what about it? | Victims Unite!

  77. Pingback: BUSINESSMAN shot solicitor dead because… But who are the real criminals? Who are the real policy makers? | Victims Unite!

  78. Pingback: KENNETH CLARKE and the Pattern that Connects white collar crimes from bankruptcies to #childsnatchuk and #paedobritain | Victims Unite!

  79. Pingback: TSHWANE Principles: Global Principles on National Security and the Right to Information | Victims Unite!

  80. Pingback: ‘KIDS LOST in Care’ – BBC1 Panorama – 24 June | Punishment without Crime

  81. Pingback: KENNETH CLARKE and the Pattern that Connects white collar crimes from bankruptcies to #childsnatchuk and #paedobritain |

  82. Pingback: THE FORENSICS of Legal Fraud – across Bankruptcies, Poisoning, Child Snatching and Court of Protection | Victims Unite!

  83. Pingback: It takes bad intentions to commit a crime. And it takes ‘people in high places’ to cover it up. – Victims Unite |

  84. Pingback: INTERNATIONAL CONCERNS about UK Law and a Barrister’s Critique of Family Courts | Punishment without Crime

  85. Pingback: VICKY speaks @ House of Commons Meeting in January 2013 | Vicky Haigh: banned from contact with her daughter...

  86. Pingback: INTERNATIONAL CONCERNS about UK Law and a Barrister’s Critique of Family Courts – Calling on MPs | Anti Oligarch

  87. Pingback: “Abolition of Adoptions without Parental Consent” | Anti Oligarch

  88. Pingback: SHE WINS in Court but gets beaten up in Prison: Email to Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe | Victims Unite!

  89. Pingback: RETURN our CHILDREN! Request by Protesters and Petitioners | Punishment without Crime

  90. Pingback: DEAR MR CAMERON, Return our Stolen Children! Request by Protesters and Petitioners On their way to No 10 | Anti Oligarch

  91. Anonymous says:

    My 14 year old has been significantly harmed, assaulted, bullied, demeaned and her education gravely affected as a result of ignored failures to act and duty of care.
    The same Carmarthenshire County Council now wish to place the child in care to cover up its own failings and blame the parents in order to protect careers, pensions, personal interests, political interests as well as Luciferian affiliations.

  92. Pingback: CHECK YOUR ‘mental capacity’: if your Judge is not on the list, his orders are void! | Victims Unite!

  93. Pingback: THE PEOPLE PROCESSING Industry: Dishonest Money in, Victimised Victims Out | Victims Unite!

  94. Pingback: From Russia with Love and from HMP Holloway to HMP Cardiff - in less than 24 hours - 04 Latest News

  95. Pingback: BRING BACK BRADBURIES: to Compensate Victims of White Collar Criminals | Enforcement of Bank of England Act 1694...

  96. Pingback: LAW BREAKERS can’t be Law Enforcers: the First Empowerment Monday | Victims Unite!

  97. Pingback: VICTIMS Unite and Occupy Zebra Xings – with Empty Pushchairs! | Victims Unite!

  98. Pingback: INSPIRED by UKIP: the UKIP £, Child Snatching and the Bradbury Pound | Victims Unite!

  99. Pingback: WE CAN OVERCOME! Come On People, Let’s Take Back the Children, PLEASE, PLEASE! | Punishment without Crime

  100. Pingback: WHICH SIDE are You On: Rothschild (City) or Treasury (Westminster)? | In the Spirit of the Forum for Stable Currencies

  101. Pingback: POINT 25 on the Illuminati Agenda: create and use national and international laws to Destroy Civilisation | Victims Unite!

  102. Living hell everyday feels like I’m drowning as they always get what they want!!!

  103. Pingback: ROUTINE Violations of Art 6 (Fair Trial) and Art 8 (Family Life) by UK State | Victims Unite!

  104. Pingback: LEGAL AID lawyer, secret courts and social workers collude(d) to adopt (two) boys | Punishment without Crime

  105. Pingback: PETITION NUMBER 1707/2013 – first step for tabling in the Committee of the EU Parliament | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  106. Pingback: KEEP CALM and Challenge Britain: Children Back for Christmas! | Victims Unite!

  107. Pingback: APPEAL HEARING on 06 December – with or without the prisoners? | A Nigerian Family – Destroyed by Haringey Council – Gagged from Reporting

  108. Pingback: Child Snatching | wakemanclare

  109. Pingback: VICTIMS UNITE ONLINE against gagging and for compensation – especially after suicides! | Victims Unite!

  110. Pingback: WHY BRITAIN is no longer safe: in ‘link language’ and bullet points | Victims Unite!

  111. Pingback: WHY BRITAIN is no longer safe: in ‘link language’ and bullet points | Anti Oligarch

  112. Pingback: CHALLENGES for McKenzie Friends – as Legal Aid is cut and white collar crimes rise | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  113. Pingback: WHY I AM ON HUNGER STRIKE & Forensic Analysis of Cardiff's Predetermined Conviction Policy - Latest News

  114. Pingback: THEY’RE ALL IN IT together: Police, Prison, Judiciary, Medicals despite 35 days of hunger strike in HMP Cardiff | Flying Vet challenges South Wales Police

  115. Pingback: PACKAGING Un-Believable Facts about Child ‘Care’ and Forced Adoptions for MEPs and PRESS in Brussels | Phil Thompson & Family

  116. Pingback: Protecting Families » CHALLENGES for McKenzie Friends

  117. Pingback: HOW DO WE CRIMINALISE parents after we take their children? Let’s start with a Search Warrant! | The Pedro Family: five children snatched by Lincoln County Council - without paper work

  118. Pingback: CHALLENGES for McKenzie Friends

  119. Pingback: McKENZIE FRIENDS under the looking glass: a report from the Legal Consumer Services Panel | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  120. Pingback: BATTLE NEWS Easter 2014 on two fronts: Scotland and Brussels | A Battle for Britain's Children and others' Human Rights

  121. Pingback: GUIDANCE NOTES for writing Position Statements as a way of ‘Taking Stock’ | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  122. Pingback: DERAILED from the Public Interest: the Public Gravy Train | Victims Unite!

  123. Pingback: BARONESS WARMSLEY’S speech on Child Protection in the House of Lords | No Punishment without Crime or Bereavement without Death!

  124. Pingback: DO YOU WANT to stop child snatching and paedophile scandals? Everybody knows! | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  125. Pingback: Child Snatching | pricekatie

  126. Pingback: Social Services continue to assist paedophiles | Alternative News Network

  127. Pingback: OPEN LETTER to the Met regarding internationally protective paedophiles – at the cost of a Lithuanian boy | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  128. Pingback: SCREAMING CHILDREN (from age 10) will be heard, promises Family Justice Minister Simon Hughes MP | No Punishment without Crime or Bereavement without Death!

  129. Pingback: CHILDREN TO BE HEARD? Open Letter to the Minister of State for Justice and Civil Liberties | Victims Unite!

  130. Pingback: WHO POLICES the Police, Judges the Judges and Governs the Governors? | Flying Vet challenges South Wales Police

  131. Pingback: MIND THE GAP between policies and reality: court secrecy, unlawful imprisonments and the national inquiry into organised child sexual abuse | Victims Unite!

  132. Pingback: CHILD ABUSE SCANDAL raises disturbing questions about UK establishment or how #childsnatchuk leads to #paedobritain | Victims Unite!

  133. Pingback: KELLIE COTTAM’s cry for help to stop the adoption of her two children | No Punishment without Crime or Bereavement without Death!

  134. Pingback: APPEALING to the Home Affairs Committee: evidence of Child Sexual Exploitation and localised grooming | Victims Unite!

  135. Pingback: FROM THE HORSE’s mouth: survivor of ritual satanic abuse and informant of paedo network | We Who Oppose Deception

  136. Pingback: #paedobritain relies on #childsnatchuk: Police, Judiciary, Councils, Social Workers, NHS and Schools | National Inquiry into Organised Child Sexual Abuse

  137. Pingback: OPEN LETTER re CSA Inquiry: survivor, whistleblower and victims of 5 Police Forces | Victims Unite!

  138. Pingback: CHILD SEX ABUSE – 02/09/14 – Glenda Jackson (Hampstead and Kilburn) (Lab) – Theresa May (Home Secretary) | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  139. Pingback: WHO CARES when foreign children are #abused in #fostercare? | A Nigerian Family – Destroyed by Haringey Council – Gagged from Reporting

  140. Pingback: NATIONAL #CSAINQUIRIES in Northern Ireland and Australia: Historical Institutional Abuse and Children in Care | No Punishment without Crime or Bereavement without Death!

  141. Pingback: INDIVIDUALS die. Institutions live: same circus, different clowns #dishonestmoney | Victims Unite!

  142. Pingback: #ITV: Compelling evidence: #Rotherham officials ignored numerous credible warnings about #child abuse | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  143. Pingback: @JohnMannMP about #CorridorsofPower and #ChildSexualAbuse in #Lambeth and #Nottingham | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  144. Pingback: LATVIAN SUPPORT in the Royal Courts of Justice to STOP #ForcedAdoption of Katya | Laila Brice

  145. Pingback: FIRST #BrianPead now #ChrisSpivey: if you expose us, we take your grandchild | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  146. Pingback: The Tap Blog | you stole my daughter

  147. Pingback: GET #YourMP to sign #EDM374 on Child Sexual Abuse Inquiry #CSAInquiry | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  148. Pingback: The Tap Blog | The political paedo-cover-up gets up steam

  149. Pingback: The Tap Blog | Horrific Child Snatching By Social Services

  150. Pingback: The Tap Blog | Social Services continue to assist paedophiles

  151. Pingback: #HumanRights Issues become #HumanDuties: in the name of Defenceless Children and Intimidated Parents | Victims Unite!

  152. Pingback: Child Snatching Victims Unite! | justice4parentsagainstss

  153. Pingback: CHILDREN IN CARE to Protect Police#Cover-Up of organised #ChildSexualAbuse | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  154. Pingback: #BENFELLOWS is out on bail – tagged, curfewed and #gagged | Victims Unite!

  155. Pingback: please read this walsall proffessionals are responsable for all there wrong doings on my case too | meggiemom342

  156. Pingback: Abused kids in video being made to forget who they are by authorities |

  157. Pingback: Abused kids in video being made to forget who they are by authorities | Alternative News Network

  158. Pingback: JOINING DIRTY DOTS: #ChildSnatchUK … #ForcedAdoptions … #PaedoUK … #ChildSexualAbuse #CSA … #SatanicRitualAbuse #SRA … #FilthyBritain | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  159. Pingback: #BritishNation supporting #SabineMcNeill – #ChildrenScreamingToBeHeard latest video | Whistleblower Kids in the Court of Public Interest

  160. Pingback: BANNED from #Facebook comment on #retraction #video | Whistleblower Kids in the Court of Public Interest

  161. truth says:

    CAFFCASS notes and how to deal with them (from peoples experiences reported on net blogs)

    TO DO before the interview – write up your own summary and send to to CAFCASS
    • I wouldn’t trust many of them and if you are prepared to take the chance, record every meeting and phone call. No point asking for permission, the answer is almost always “no”. Your intention is to never reveal that you are recording the conversations and you keep the recording to yourself, so you can remind yourself about what was actually said.
    • (To record buy an Olympus TP-8 Telephone Pick Up Microphone and connect it your input audio port into your laptop and press record on Audiocity – which you can download here free: OR you can simply record the conversation on your mobile)
    • If you can’t record – move to taking notes in future meetings.
    • One of the best tips I ever got was without telling them (or they will stop you) record the entire CAFCASS interview, that way you can qoute word for word what you actually said. The second best tip I got was unless its in WRITING disregard it, CAFCASS say one thing and then put somethig differnt in their report
    • Goes without saying really but keep all paperwork and plan before you see them write down little points to remind you of what you want to say. My experience was that they are usually OK with you phoning them afterwards if you need to let them know something important you have forgotten.
    • With the greatest respect to the previous post, I would NOT record them without their permission. If discovered, this could well reflect badly on you and it may be difficult to use any recorded material to prove anything as you will probably have breached all sorts of laws by recording something secretly.
    • the biggest mistake I made in dealing with CAFCASS was believing the stuff they send out beforehand – the DVD and info they sent led me to believe we were both going to have an equal say. That didn’t happen
    • Try to get other professionals involved – a quick look at the other thread on this will tell you that the mother’s voice is being ignored in court in favour of the father getting whatever contact he wants. So if your voice doesn’t count try to see if you can enlist – health visitor, school, educational psychologist.
    • It helps if you have an idea of what the other party is likely to try to use against you, so that you can counter that in your discussions.

    TO DO during the interview – how to conduct yourself
    • Before attending your first hearing, it is now common for CAFCASS to contact you to undertake a short telephone interview. Your focus is to explain your position to them, and try to avoid ranting about your ex-partner, giving your opinions on how terrible a parent they may be, complaining about injustice and unfairness. Be calm, explain yourself clearly, listen, and keep your answers to questions focused on what has been asked.
    • If a W&F or S7 report is to be undertaken, you will usually be called into your local CAFCASS office for a more in depth meeting where your situation will be discussed at length. You will be asked questions about the children, your relationship with your ex-partner, and how you feel things could be resolved for the children’s benefit. It is too easy to have a very biased view with only your view of events and ignore the fact that there may well be valid explanations for things that have happened – think about things from both sides. Be wary of exaggerating claims, and try to avoid making ridiculous allegations. The CAFCASS Officer will be forming an opinion of you, and how you will affect the children. You do not want them to consider you as being unreasonable. However, if you have genuine beliefs, stand by them and explain them clearly.
    • Remember that the CAFCASS officer is a REPORTER not a THERAPIST! Their job is to gather information and analyse this and anything you share with them can be used for this purpose. The other side will have equal rights to view what is written.
    • CAFCASS priority is the welfare of your children, not you. There is a limited amount that CAFCASS will do with the ‘he said, she said’ type stuff. CAFCASS have limited powers to act in the abscence of hard evidence – In my experience, the most useful evidence is that which you can back up – witness statements, reports from police, schools, etc.
    • Try to form a good working relationship with CAFCASS, bearing in mind you both have a job to do. The court will put a great deal of store by what CAFCASS recommend.
    • stay calm within it, otherwise you risk your understandable emotion being noted and used against you
    • I think they are not really interested in the “he said/did she said/did” scenarios as at the end of the day, how would they know which person was telling the truth?
    • They have limited time, so focusing on the MAIN points and biggest areas of concerns is your best bet.
    • Pouring out how much your ex partners behaviour has affected you personally won’t help your case as they are child focused and it could actually go against you as it will make you look as though you have an axe to grind.
    • try not to bad mouth your ex, just outline any concerns you have and also any concerns your ex may have addressed with you and how you have handled those.
    • Be calm, be honest and stay focused
    • just had a meeting with a cafcass officer. I found the experience with her very negative and stressful.
    • i tried to be posative and explained things from my kids point of view what was best for them,

    TO DO after interview – write up your own summary and send to to CAFCASS
    • After each meeting, write to the reporter, thank them for the meeting and give them a summary of what you remember being said in the meeting. List the points that you felt were most important and why, then ask the reporter to correct any misunderstandings you might have in your summary. keep the summary short but clear and correct.
    • If there are parts you want to contest in the report do it in writing to cafcass as soon as you get the report – if you are going to challenge it tell the court immediatly. You have the option to complain about factual stuff which I will do as well. Also remember you have the option to ask to have Cafcass Officer be cross-examined
    • When the report is produced, the main section the court are concerned with is the recommendation at the end of the report – it is this recommendation which is hard to prevent being implemented – Is that conclusion based on inaccuracies or misinformation. If so, you need to decide whether to raise those with the officer now, or in court. If it isn’t, then you will need to fight the conclusion – This is best done BEFORE court but CAFCASS will intentionally deliver the report at the last moment before the hearing so you will have no time to challenge it before court – challenging it in court is expensive
    • Tell Cafcass everything. Every small detail. Every concern. Every big thing. Your main concerns. They need to hear it all. Ask them about what happens next. Keep well informed about how your case is going. The reason is, if you have a good Cafcass officer, then well and good, they are trained and they want to help and in general, they can and do help as best they can. If you have a bad officer or an over worked one, they can try to cut corners or try to make an option that is easier for them or for the courts. So, if you get one of those, you need to make yourself heard loudly enough so that they bump you to the top of their ‘to do’ list. f you later raise an allegation or a concern that you did not in the beginning then questions will be raised about your motivation. My involvement with Cafcass has generally been good but I would recommend keeping
    EVERYTHING about the children, I know that is all you care about but make sure it shows. Explain how his behaviour effects THEM, be as calm and reasonable as you can when you explain your concerns – they will be looking to make sure the non-resident parent has as much contact as possible BUT they do still have to put the interests of the children first.
    • I made an Official Complaint about Cafcass, about how the interviews and the report was written, I sent a copy to the Court, it was read and acknowledged. If there are factual errors make a point of letting Cafcass know. The Cafcass Report in my case was written right at the last moment, with no time to get intouch with them to change anything, so I sent a letter direct to the Court to point out the factual errors that had been made. (IMPORTANT – CAFCASS intentionally present their reports at the LAST MINUTE so people have no time to challenge them). Don’t just accept what they write, if you know it is not what you said in the interview put it right, it could make a difference.

    Make CAFCASS toe-the-line
    • Put your foot down and insist they follow their own procedure and guidelines. Read up as much as you can, find out about their procedures so you know when they are not following their own guidelines, do not accept what they suggest if it is not in line with their guidelines, and do NOT be afraid to question them on everything! (CAFCASS They have there own Law System/Rule Book, They Make It Up As They Go Along, N Why??? Because They Can They’re being Allowed 2 ABUSE us by The Government.. Cafcass seem 2 hold more Powers n Say than Social Services). Monitor everything. Challenge everything. Do not take what they say as read. It is nothing more than opinion, often not based on anything other than personal experience of the officer involved. CAFCASS has a reputation for being inept, slow, inefficient, unfair and downright useless.

    What the court will do:
    • the Court will need to investigate whether there are any welfare issues in a case, and because the Judge is not able to go on home visits and investigate themselves, they use an organisation called the Child and Family Court Advisory Service (CAFCASS) to undertake any investigations on their behalf, and report back to the court. As far as the court is concerned, the CAFCASS report is the best available independent information that they have and therefore it carries a great deal of weight.
    • My one piece of advice with dealing with them is to make sure when you have the meetings in court that you go into all the meetings WITH your ex.. I made a huge mistake because he scared me so much of asking to see them seperately… I NEVER found out what he said to them and felt that it had a huge impact on them disregarding what I was saying.
    • nine times out of ten the courts go with the caf cass report The contact centre:
    • due to me having a non mol agains ex and the police believed he was a real risk to me they advised me not to
    go to contactr center so my mum was taking ds so had to give her petrol money.
    • it has been 5 years of court and CAFCASS
    • My experience of cafcass suggests they really are quite dysfunctional as an organisation. I am now in a position where I have to attend a contact centre in order to see my son, which I refuse to do as I believe they are a real threat to the safety of my son, based on the following past experience. I attended a contact centre in Peterborough for a two hour visit. During the entire two hours, my son and I had to endure a tourettes suffer shouting d**k head. Not really something I want a five year old to endure. After following, I am greeted by a full size german shepherd, unmuzzled and running around the play area freely, from what is purported to be a safe and secure environment to re-establish contact. I refuse to pander to these people. They operate in a
    clandestine blameless culture that would embarrass most communist regimes.
    • I left my husband 15months ago due to domestic violence and have a non molestation order in place.

  162. Pingback: I WANT TO HELP: What’s the Problem? #Secrecy #ChildSnatching #ForcedAdoptions #CSA #SRA | 'Whistleblower Kids' in the Court of Public Interest

  163. Pingback: DEJA VU: The WALES CHILD ABUSE SCANDAL and the WATERHOUSE REPORT | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  164. Pingback: SEVEN GROUNDS for Public Interest in #Pauffley #Judgement #WhistleblowerKids by 1-5 August | 'Whistleblower Kids' in the Court of Public Interest

  165. Pingback: The Irish Police think that a Roma couple kidnapped own child because of colour of the hair, skin, eyes and physical appearance, well that is Racism .. | Rosario Castellanos de Parker Blog ..

  166. Pingback: How do we fight White Collar Criminals? Waking up to Terrible Realities and learning about Exposure, Exposure, Exposure… | Victims Unite!

  167. Pingback: @KAREN__BRADLEY Minister for Preventing #Abuse and #Exploitation: keeping #children safe is everyone’s job | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  168. Pingback: Gradual Shock Therapy of #WakingUp: from #ChildSnatching to #ForcedAdoptions and #ChildSexualAbuse #RitualAbuse #SatanicAbuse | No Punishment without Crime or Bereavement without Death!

  169. Pingback: MIND THE GAP between Politicians, Academics and Real Life Victims: #ForcedAdoption before #PETI in Brussels | No Punishment without Crime or Bereavement without Death!

  170. Pingback: BATTLEFIELD BRUSSELS: #Adoption without Consent – Our Recommendations for #EUInstitutions and #UKGovernment as Solutions | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  171. Pingback: When happens to Characters when they get assassinated? @HamandHigh #WhistleblowerKids #HampsteadScandal 20 #HampsteadChildren 70+ #SRA abusers | Victims Unite!

  172. Pingback: What happens to Characters when they get assassinated? @HamandHigh #WhistleblowerKids #HampsteadScandal 20 #HampsteadChildren 70+ #SRA abusers | Victims Unite!

  173. Pingback: @DavidIcke promotes @TonyGosling interview re #HampsteadScandal #WhistleblowerKids #SRA #Money #Sex #Austerity | Victims Unite!

  174. Pingback: @EU_Commission upholding #EU_Law across EU member states and UK family courts? @EP_Petitions @EP_Legal @EP_Justice @EP_HumanRights | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  175. Pingback: @Newsweek @NewsweekEurope Institutionalised #ChildSexualAbuse in #ChildSnatchUK and #PaedoBritain | National Inquiry into Organised, Orchestrated & Historic Child Sexual Abuse

  176. Pingback: To Deny or Not to Deny #SatanicRitualAbuse #SRA or #Holocaust – what is nobler in the Mind? Ignorant or Complicit? Victim or Perpetrator? | Victims Unite!

  177. Pingback: Towards the Fact-Finding Visit of MEPs in Europe House, London on 05 Nov: | Voluntary Public Interest Advocacy

  178. Pingback: Towards the Fact-Finding Visit of MEPs in Europe House, London on 05 Nov. |

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s