Social Services Stealing Children

State Stealing Children contains over 80 posts on David Icke’s website since October 2006.

State Kidnapping is the text I put together in July 2010.

Since then, I published information about The Stealing of Baby Harley in South Wales which caused WordPress to block my site unless I deleted eight posts which I did.

This was caused by an “Injunction Order” by the lawyer of a Local Council. Very annoying situation for a passionate blogger and online activist!

When I published one post relating to a case in the North of the country, I had no idea that there was a “Reporting Restriction Order” that, again, caused WordPress to block unless I delete.

  1. Now I publish My Daddy is a Paedophile, the case behind the second Reporting Restriction Order: a seven-year old girl whose mother has, so far in vein, tried to save her from his father. Since then the Vicky Haigh case has become public, while I set my website in her support to “private”. Please press Register to get access.
  2. The Nigerian family whose six children were stolen is distinctly the worst of all child snatching cases and is waiting to be solved at the highest level of diplomacy.
  3. Child Snatching before the Citizens’ Cyber Court.

Now, that I KNOW how utterly hypocritical and corrupt the family court system is, I wear three gagging orders with pride: from Swansea, Doncaster and Haringey Council.

And I publish

besides these petitions:

I also compiled this Dossier of online Evidence to support the EU petition

The following other sites have come my way:

  1. UK Social Services with a Name and Shame page and a Protest page about the child stealing scam
  2. Freedom Law International
  3. Freedom Advocacy & Law
  4. International Rescue for Families
  5. Families fighting for Justice
  6. One Voice for the Kids
  7. Parents Against Injustice
  8. Researching Reform

56 Responses to Social Services Stealing Children

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  2. Anonymous says:

    my 2 boys are being torn away my name is rockcie severight and my 2 sons ashton and jordan severight they were taken on wrong accusations and interigated alone to say what the workers needed to hear

  3. We need to do something to stop these child snatching money greedy. scare mongering, SS. Me and my partner, who founded are own business in 2004, have three fantastic children that are happy and thriving have recently fallen victim to the SS. With nothing but fabricated and slanderer- ish information have seen fit to threaten us with the removal of our children.

    These threats have come about due to our, in their own words “refusal to co- opreate to their demands” We luckily have many contacts due to our business in the media, both tabloid and radio. We intend to publicise their mistakes again as others have done before us. And put an end to this charade.. Regretfully some have fallen before us and we only hope many not after us.

    • GO FOR IT!!!! PLEASE!!!

      The situation is simply too dreadful to be true, and the mainstream media are a big contributor!!! On the other hand, those few who have tried to make a difference haven’t really succeeded. See http://bit.ly/N45qUG

      If you can keep your kids AND blame SS, you’ll set a real precedent for lots of people to be proud of you!!!

      My VERY BEST WISHES!!!

  4. tracey davies says:

    Our children were stolen by norfolk social services, we got them back 2 years later we left norfolk and moved to mallorca we had only been here 6 months when great yarmouth social services contacted palma socia services and told them we had stolen our children and ran away.

    we have lost our children through no fault of our own. in october this year they split my youngest 2 children up and permanently fostered our son.my children are all in seperate homes they cannot see each other, speak to each other or have visits with any members of our family.

    we do not see them,we cannot go to court, there is no answer to social services, they refuse to answer lawyers, they refuse to comment to the Press.

    in november of this year, my husband and myself were arrested we were held in the police cells of PALMA-NOVA GUARDIA CIVIL, THEY KEPT US LOCKED UP FOR 3 DAYS, WE WERE NOT ALLOWED PHONE CALLS, I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO CONTACT MY lawyer, i was not allowed to contact our friends to look after my dog and cats, they were left to starve and fend for themselves.
    we were arrested and charged with prostituting 1 of our daughter for sex with our landlord,even though our daughter has written a letter saying it was all lies, our lawyer has the letter, we have not been able to go to courts.

    we do not have any visits or any way of contacting our 5 children, our 14 year old has been told that if she contacts us we will go to prison this was told to her by a man named Juanma Vidal he is the so called IDIOT IN CHARGE OF OUR CASE, BUT HE WILL NOT SEE US.,OR ARRANGE MEETINGS ETC.

    THE DEPARTMENT HEAD OF SOCIAL SERVICES IN PALMA REFUSES TO ANSWER MY FAXES, I SEND THEM REGULARLY, BUT THEY DO NOT ANSWER.
    BUT THEY HAVE PUT ALL THESE LIES ABOUT US IN THE PAPERS ALL OVER THE WORLD, PLEASE HELP US GET OUR CHILDREN BACK AND SUE THESE NASTY VINDICTIVE CHILD SNATCHING ORGANIZATIONS AND MAKE THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

    we can no longer see Morgan and Jamie the last time we saw them was may for Jamie and july for Morgan.

    as for Palma social services.
    on wednesaday they told the guardia civil in Palma-nova to arrest us they want us in prison
    we were kept in the police cells at palma-nova from wednesday evening until friday morning
    we were not allowed to contact anyone they refused me access to our Lawyer.

    we have been accused of prostituting Amelia to our Landlord for money.

    Amelia has written a letter saying that it is all lies which our Lawyer has.

    The ultima hora have got hold of the story and ran it in the papers, they have contacted the sun, we are now in every paper, internet, etc worldwide. but what they have printed is all lies.
    would you like to sue them for us. these are the links all about us.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2241757/Parents-accused-selling-teenage-daughter-sex-pensioner-just-12.html

    http://www.ynaija.com/unconscionable-parents-accused-of-pimping-11-year-old-daughter-to-76-year-old-for-12-a-pop/

    http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/british-parents-court-over-selling-daughter-sex-

    174053630.html

    http://welcometomallorca.info/`

    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1061171631

    http://www.allvoices.com/news/13520277-pimp-parents

    http://www.disclose.tv/forum/british-parents-accused-of-selling-daughter-11-for-sex

    t81530.html

    http://www.ccs-rochford.co.uk/spivey/?p=7606

    http://www.talkofnaija.com/index.php/component/noticeboard/noticeboard/8861

    http://news.yahoo.com/british-parents-court-over-selling-daughter-sex-174053630.html

    http://yespunjab.com/crime-news/item/11839-british-parents-in-court-over-selling-daughter-

    http://www.i4u.com/2012/12/daughter-arrested-british-majorca-couple-allegedly-

    http://www.indiatalkies.com/2012/12/british-parents-court-selling-daughter-sex.html

    http://newshopper.sulekha.com/british-parents-in-court-over-selling-daughter-for_news_1618323.htm http://www.tvballa.com/2012/12/british-pimping-couple-majorca
    daughter-their-arrested-allegedly

    http://www.indiatvnews.com/crime/news

    http://www.mid-day.com/news/2012/dec/031212-crime-international-Parents-in-court-over-

    selling-minor-daughter-for-sex.htm
    ww.malaysiandigest.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=183581:british-
    parents-accused-of-selling-daughter-for-sex-with-pensioner-for-rm60&catid=37:w

    http://www.ummid.com/news/2012/December/03.12.2012/british_parents_sex.htm

    http://theoslotimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=107&Itemid=601

    http://aplivenews.com/news-updates/british-parents-in-court-over-selling-daughter-for-sex/

    http://omoooduarere.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/parents-sell-their-11-year-old-daughter.html

    http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/british-parents-in-court-over-selling-daughter-for-

    http://www.ccs-rochford.co.uk/spivey/

    http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2012/12/02/294–British-parents-in-court-over- http://www.newsreporter.in/british-parents-in-court-over-selling-daughter-for-sex-84734selling-daughter-for-sex-.html

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    http://tdnpost.com/news/british-parents-in-court-over-selling-daughter-for-sex-147936.html

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    http://www.india.com/topic/Man-of-the-Year.html

    http://news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/World/20121202/2112357.html

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    http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/211105247/scat/a5286f17ab326d15

    http://donoyin.blogspot.com.es/2012/12/parents-sell-their-11-year-old-daughter.html

    http://entertainment.topnewstoday.org/entertainment/article/3910183/

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  5. 1. They need to issue a Hague Convention application from Palma for return of the children under Article 3 of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child because the UK is not in compliance.
    (see http://pattersonalastair.wordpress.com/about/procedural-guides/cases/crown-prosecution-service/).

    2. They need to issue an out of time appeal in the UK of all care orders because the evidential standards were not met. There must be a criminal prosecution brought by the Crown Prosecution Service before a care or supervision order can be made.

    3. In both cases they must have formal confirmation that the domestic processes have been exhausted. They must then then apply to the European Court of Human Rights on the grounds of the children’s Article 2 and Article 3 rights which are unprotected in the UK as nothing has changed since Baby P.

    A

  6. tracey davies says:

    Some little light in the tunnel I guess. I spoke with Raul today. He is very clear on the whole case of course. Conclusions :
    The sexual allegations have already being dismissed by the judge because Perfecto had an alibi and the “prostitution” story was proved impossible, your daughter did retract allegations thought we are not clear if she ever consciously made any allegation. But there is nothing running about this from the legal point of view. Only ss are using this or other pretext for keeping the kids.

    The ss did enjoy your request to the police about your unruly older daughter to get 5 children bringing each 3000 euros per month to Nazareth included Rhiannon who is living with her boy friend but still on state responsibility, which allow ss to cash the money despite they don’t give her anything.

    Raul think as I do after speaking to your daughter Paisley that she and her sister, as teenagers, enjoy the freedom in the children home because as long as they respect or seem to respect the “no contact with parents”, everything is allowed from wild sex to drugs and drink. But yes Amelia is given luxuaries and money, not Paisley, indicating the need to buy her silence.

    I searched about their place and saw (you might know it) that it is not a children home but an “hostal”, so a cheap hotel, and it is written in big letters on the building “HOSTAL”. In my experience in Spain, the owners can ask a maximum of 50 euros for a room in the highest tourism period. It is impossible to book a room online and the last track of hotel activity I found there was in 2010. So I think that ss might rent for cheap price the full building (not very big indeed) in exchange of getting it full of teenagers all year. It allows them a very discreet children home and being so close to the beach and the artificial movida of Palma Nova, teenagers might like it.

    Your solicitor is trying to get the judge Balthazar Garzon involved which means that he is well aware of the fraud and potential scandal.

    The British connection is going in the contrary sense of what I thought first : they cannot hope to get the children back in the UK because the spanish business has a grip on them but I wouldn’t advise to try to go back here as they could enjoy the spanish reports to activate their own business. They can’t do nothing about the Palma issue and I suggest that we wait a little bit to launch your daughters applications for data access to make them forgot about your own attempts. Norfolk ss are getting information from Spanish ss, not the contrary.

    If the solicitor succeeds in what he is pursuing, I suppose that the main obstacle will be the possible lack of firmness by Paisley and Amelia to come back living with you. Paisley clearly wants to see you freely and as much as she wants but is unsure about living with you. Don’t forgot that most teenagers think by what they perceive as their own interest first. Also it will be a problem with Amelia realising that she was used and bears (apparently) responsibility for screwing up the whole family. This is very heavy for her and she might push reality away for long.

    The biggest issue are Morgan and James. I will try to get Paisley helping about this, I don’t think that Jackie would be too helpful, I feel with her a bit of the social care ideology but am not 100% sure yet.

    Despite the slow spanish process, there is a fight going and lawsuits in the pipeline against ss, especially from Perfecto. The local paper should not be forgotten which spread the news to the Sun. No investigation, just copy/paste of a dispatch obviously provided by ss all over the countries where many british citizens are living.

    You probably understood this already : spanish and british corruption work differently. The first one is based on a laisser-faire by the authorities. (a judge says that you are not guilty of sexual exploitation but won’t do nothing to make sure that ss cannot use this against you.) The second one is based on the art of making corruption looking like law. The judge would have said that you are not guilty of sexual exploitation but that the ss concerns are paramount when it comes to the best interest of the child, cutting the grass under your feet. So the spanish way is less sophisticated but the way of blowing up the truth is much more difficult because no one challenge ss assertions in court. However it looks that your solicitor is trying hard and might succeed according to Raul.

  7. I am a grandmother and I have proof at my home of the lies emotional blackmail , and how social services even used illegal documents in court, the names of these social workers are Jackie morgan Hemsworth office and katey noble and so called guardian Yvonne smith wakefield office west Yorkshire. I they will go to any means to get there own way even the illegal way .if we lied in a court we would be in serious trouble but these women do it every day my granddaughters were put in foster care then they were moved to different foster carers .then when seen at contact sessions bruises and mars were noticed on both girls they were taken to hospital , then moved again they seemed ok here until a few weeks ago when the vyoungest aged one was taken to hospital the day after the so called accident were she was diagnosed as having a dislocated elbow, and a broken arm she had to have an operation ant the arm potted if that had been a parent the child would have been removed from them no questions asked especially leaving the child a full day in pain before seeking help all this happens and no questions are asked there are loads mor on going things which I will gladly tell you about more later

  8. Some of the information I have collected regarding…

    Evidence of corruption and negligence by Social Services in the United Kingdom

    http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/united-kingdom-evidence-corruption-abuse-negligence-and-mistreatment-children-and-families

    Helpful information for parents dealing with Social Services in the United Kingdom

    http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/united-kingdom-help-people-dealing-social-services

    Useful tools and tips to assist in protecting yourself and your family from the child protection industry (written by a barrister from Canada)

    http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/useful-tools-and-tips-assist-protecting-your-family-child-protection-industry

    My own personal experience with child protection in Australia….

    http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/walk-mile-lukes-shoes-and-tell-me-how-perfect-your-child-protection-system

    Thankyou for inviting me here Phil and well done for how hard you have fought for your children, it is obvious how much you love them, and hat off to you for helping many.

    Stay Strong… Never Give UP!

  9. Madeleine. Salt says:

    Plz could u give me ur email address as I really need ur advice

  10. jackie says:

    Another baby was snatched on 20.12.2013 why they said the baby was at risk from harm because she was being dishonest about the father she wasnt there is evidence dating back from when she was pregnant the baby is 20 months old and she has always met his needs and has never came to any harm always well fed and the house is spotless there is plenty of evidence of this as well the ironic thing is they was going to let her son come home with her if a physiotherapist couldnt come to the foster carers house to teach her how to do the massage correctly he was born with talipies in his left foot then apparently they found one and went on to snatch him the physio thearapist never did go and to qdd the judge in a summoning up stated that there would be significant harm to the child if he was to be removed because of the bond and her son is english and they placed him with somalians with 2 children first time fosterers??????

    • jackie says:

      And would like to add she had a parenting assessment and came out glowing a fit able mother this is wrong she had 2 children taking from her 15 years ago made matters worst by beating the social worker up went to jail and her children were adopted they are using this against her despite having evidence she as channged her life around she never went out stayed in everynight caring for her son this is so wrong

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  12. Anonymous says:

    http://www.myspace.com/sharmilaworld

    Sharmila (recordingartist and songwriter) and her daughter Tanisha are in danger. Delta Organisation Netherlands http://www.deltapsy.nl
    Stop Sharmila’s death penalty with forced drugs @ http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/843/

    http://www.cchr.org/cchr-reports/harming-artists/introduction.html

    http://www.cchr.org/cchr-reports/inventing-disorders/introduction.html

    They locked them up and they want to make her daughter homeless this monday. They want to sell them out for the sexslavery.(childprotectionservice Netherlands,Jeugdzorg,JJC,Delta)

  13. andy says:

    Hi,
    Expert Speakers This is a free event.
    Children screaming to be heard and The Silent Witnesses Conference to be held on July 25th 9am to 5pm at the resource Centre for London on the Holloway road.
    We Invite you or any member of your organization to attend this seated and ticketed event.
    There is no charge a donation to the registered charity is appreciated on the day all tickets can be collected on the day from a member of our team.
    The aims of the conference is to which aims to prevent physical, emotional and sexual abuse and neglect of children
    by promoting the physical, emotional, and social well-being of children. We aim to promote the rights of children
    as citizens, through multi-disciplinary collaboration, education, campaigning and other appropriate activities’
    1:-The fact is that parents who have committed no crime are losing their children to forced adoption!
    2:-Experts who depend on court appearances for a living, nearly always agree with the local authority.They make predictions that parents just might abuse their children (including newborn babies) in the future ,so these parents lose their children to permanent fostercare or adoption,not for something they have done but for something they might (or might not) do!
    3:-Over 1000 UK children /month are taken into care ,Fosterers are paid an average £400/week per child (birth mothers get around £20/week),and a foster agency founded by social workers getting around £1500/week per child was recently sold for £130million !A real money driven industry !!
    4:-Parents whose children have been taken are gagged and threatened with prison if they protest publicly;At contact parents are gagged again and forbidden to get emotional,to speak any foreign language,or to discuss the case with their children otherwise contact will be stopped.
    5:-More children are taken for emotional abuse than physical and sexual abuse added together.Despite “baby P” the number taken for physical abuse is steadily falling as a percentage of the total number of children taken.
    6:-What are the solutions?
    (a)Impose criminal rules of evidence in family courts so children cannot be taken unless parents are proved to have committed a crime affecting their children. Also parents would be free to obtain a second opinion from an expert of their own choosing.
    (b)Abolish all gagging of parents leaving them free to protest openly if their children are taken, and also to say what they like to them at contact without censorship ! Two very simple changes, two very obvious solutions.,but will anyone impose them and derail the money-train ?
    Don’t hold your breath.
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  14. Martin hislop says:

    I am a single father of two aged 7 and 9, social services got involved with my ex partner and i stepped in and took the responsibility of aring for them and gave up my job, social serv will not leave us alone and are fabricating evidence to try and take my kids, i feel helpless and sad that we have people like this in power over us, wht the fk can i do besides fleeing/ nothing i fear, my heart goes out to all the children and parents who have lost theres, i will fight them to the death

  15. Ruth says:

    20 Years ago my son was murdered. I was forced to plead by my solicitor because he said the evidence against me was overwelming.
    20 years on I have evidence that Cambridgeshire Social Services spread lies, socalled lost files, and had Social workers lie, and then they were sacked (Bridge Report). The timming of the release of the Bridge Report is also very suspect, because it was delayed until after my court case, when it should have been released 3 weeks before. Police used drug dealers statements, one of which made two completly different police statements about her movements just 24 hours apart with no retraction ever being made.

    Please visit my web site for more details.

    http://www.justice4rikki.co.uk

    If you can help me get these lies or offer any advice I would be very greatful.

  16. upset grandmother says:

    Hi Im a grandmother, my daught had a baby 11 months ago the SS took the baby for adoption, they wouldnt give her any chance of coming home to her family for help and support to bring baby up, yes she found it hard, any first time mother would! They wouldnt give us the chance of having the baby to look after her, they have wanted her from the beginning! So the LA wouldnt give us any other options just adoption, this wasnt a fair trial, we didnt have a solicitor so didnt stand a chance fightin them without any legal help!
    We went to our goodbye contact with the baby last monday, this was so hearbreaking, my daughter collapsed when they took the baby, we were all so very upset. These evil s/wrkers dont care about peoplies feelings as long as they get what they want, and thats the baby, to boost their bonuses!!
    They blamed my daughter when baby wasnt thriving in the mother& baby placement, but they were wrong cause she still is not thriving now, and my daughter is not with her now, she is 11 months old and only weighs 15lb, she not sitting up on her own, not crawling, not putting on much weight, but the s/wker says we wouldnt work with them, its the other way around, they wont work with us, they lied in court and got away with it!! its one rule for them and another for us!

  17. Jayne says:

    Does anyone know of a lawyer who is not working for the SS that will help me in a court case .Not Brendan Fleming I asked him, he refused, as he only covers the West Midlands.Im in the SouthWest and any advice would be appreciated thank you.

  18. heartbroken mother says:

    I am a mother of 3 children which social services have placed for adoption many years ago, because the reason they say was that they could be at risk from emotional or physical harm. I was quite young and naive at the time and thought that justice would prevail and that they would surely see that i would not harm my children obviously that wasn’t the case and many years on i am still absolutely heartbroken and devastated to say the least. It was only recently that i saw an article about this and it devastated a further to think that there are so many that this is happening to,I wish there was something i can do but i’m unsure where to start and who to trust.

  19. upset grandmother says:

    We are in the same boat as you! those evil people have taken our granddaughter for adoption, saying my daughter would put her at risk or we would! The lies they said in court were disgusting, we wouldnt work with the LA, ha thats a laugh, its them that wouldnt work with us, offering no help or support to keep families together. They have wanted to take the baby from the start! I am trying to start up a support group to help people, so they know they are not on their own! If anyone is interested please contact me asap. I am in Wales

  20. kath c says:

    I agree I am in wales to and would like a support group ss don’t care not even for the kids

    • upset grandmother says:

      Hi Kath please let me know where you are from, if you want we can meet up and have a chat ok Take care xx

  21. upset grandmother says:

    Hi kath where in wales are you i am in Llanelli I am trying to start up a group here but at the moment i can only find a place to hold meetings in the daytime, so if you know of anymore people who would be interested in coming let me know. If there is only a few for the first time i will hold meetin in my house

  22. iain ashmore says:

    Another child needlessly adopted by the state on the basis of emotional abuse. What a farce. HHJ Jones adopted Oliver Andrew-James Ashmore at the Sheffield Family Court today between 10:30am and 11:20am in his judgement Ashmore and Ashmore v BBMC. Oliver is 6 months old born in January this year. What did I do so wrong, I was rasied poorly. Enough to make your blood boil.

    HHJ Peter Jones is corrupt

    Cafcass Ruth Fern is corrupt, she makes up events and stutters because she is so nervous.

    Social Worker Adele Wragg is very corrupt, gave false statements on the stand, got caught out lying on numerious occassions and the judge found her evidence to be reliable and truthful because she made concessions. The parents also made concessions and were said to be manipulating the courts and the social care staff.

    The Psychologist Dr David Iain Briggs is corrupt gave different opinions in court and again the judge ignored this, the Psychologist stated that there was no need for myself and my wife to seperate it was preferable, yet the judge ignored this. He said I was not an immediate risk to my son, yet he also ignored this yet relied on his earlier opinion that I was a risk. How biased can a judge be?

    Family support workers at Barnsley are corrupt they will make any rubbish up on you fabricate events, yet even when presented with the proof the judge ignores this.

    The judge when told there are other options at his disposal, he ignored this and just carried on, dismissed them, the judge had a fragrant disregard for the law. He highlighted how none of us had put forward for Oliver to remain in long term foster care, yet this was set out in my final submissions, amazing another bit of proof that the judge is corrupt.

    I will fight this further all the way, I am going to put forward appeals and appeals stopping my son being adopted or placed. I study law for a reason and i will not give in.

    Oliver is my life.

  23. KATH says:

    HI I LIVE IN CAERNARFON GWYNEDD LL55 2RT

    • upset grandmother says:

      Hi kath i am a long way away from you, im in Llanelli which is near to Swansea!Isnt there any group near to you? You would be more than welcome to keep in touch and come down you can message me if you like i will give you my number then ok xx

  24. upset grandmother says:

    Hi Ian i am so sorry to hear your news, maggie told me and i have just read it on here, it is absolutely disgraceful, how that judge ignored all that evidence! I would take this all the way and appeal it, they shouldnt be allowed to get away with this! I am thinking of you all xx

  25. kath says:

    hi we had three kids took of us we got one back which was our own son two were grandkids who we went though two years to get them and my husband son made an allegation we were arrested bailed next day thay took all three gave us our 15yr old son back 7 month later our grandkids want to come home but cos thay were three and four thay did not have a voice the police dropt the case as no evidence but social services took it as we were guilty of this we had no chance even felt the solitors don’t work for you thay work for them we had evidence then but brushed under carpet our two other sons gave evidence but that was thrown out we were made to feel guilty we are not and I was put in care when I was young three of my sister were put with foster carers and thay were all abused by them yes I agree all juges should be sacked as ss are the law makers stealing kids for there own gains have posh cars have there own houses thay live a life of riley

  26. kath says:

    hi would love to talk to you you can send your number by email if you like the person who accused us as moved that way but there is much more to it in there lies

  27. kath says:

    hi yes would love to speak to you o don’t now if there are any groups over here thankyou

  28. kath says:

    use my email address if that is ok it should just come to me

  29. upset grandmother says:

    Hi Kath how do i get u email address i keep clickin u name but cus up a blank!

  30. kath says:

    hi is there any one in Caernarfon who would like to set a group up and get together to see what can be done to help us all to try get our kids back and grandparents as we are

  31. upset grandmother says:

    Hi Kath im sorry i havent answered you back we been busy etin things ready for court, my daughter was in court today for hearing to try to get permission to revoke placement order and more contact, it was ajourned til sept for more evidence and statments!

  32. kath says:

    good look in court hope all goes for you and your daughter will keep you in my thought

  33. upset grandmother says:

    my daughter is goin back to court on 22nd Sept! she will be representin herself as the solicitor doesnt know if she will get legal aid yet!
    We havent stopped fighting for the baby yet we will never give up on her. when we saw her last week she is still so thin, she cant crawl, stand up or pull herself up yet she is 15months old, we are so concerned about her, at the state she is in the care of the L A, its shocking! who can we turn to , to help us do something?

  34. christopher says:

    Hi im a prvet investigator im investigating uk ss for serius crimes including genaside human trafiking frets to family life persicution defomation of caracter lieing under outh im in trested in how meany peaple who have had thear child children stolen buy theas monsters dose you or you partner havr rh negative blood type or asspergers syndrome your help and info whald be very hellpfull please post

    • upset grandmother says:

      Hi im just updating you what happened in court with my daughter, she lost the case to get permission to revoke placement order, the SS said because she let baby put a flipflop in her mouth and the father acused her of harrassing him the judge believed them, he had no evidence! she wasnt even in the town when he said she was working! we think the sw told him to say that to make it harder for her to win! the judge couldnt go against the last judges judgement, so we dont know what to do now , baby will be adopted one day and we will loose her, dont know where to turn now!! I contacted Natasha but she hasnt done much only give me a bit of advice, my daughters solicitor didnt get legal aid in time to represent her so now its over she will have to apply to Legal aid again if she goes for another court case! We dont know what to do now can anyone help us please?? we dont want to loose her!

  35. NAME AND SHAME says:

    CHRISTINA BATES health visitor adoption panel

    292 Burnt Oak Lane Sidcup Kent DA15 8L

    Chris Bates is a child protection health visitor who has written false adoption reports for social services and social workers looking to obtain forced out of court adoptions she has helped push through many adoptions that should have never taken place and should have gone to the courts, A truly evil vile woman. She has been reported for unfitness to practice to the HCPC several times however she is still currently working in the public sector as a child protection health visitor and is on the local authority adoption panel.

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