EDM 478: Human Rights and Forced Adoptions in the English and Welsh Courts

John Hemming MP (Birmingham) is on the ball again, as far as child ‘protection’ is concerned. On 26 October 2012, his Family Justice Bill will be before Parliament. Ask your MP to be there!

Meanwhile, he and Alan Meale MP (Mansfield) tabled this Early Day Motion (EDM 478) in the context of Human Rights, since Slovak TV reported the plight of a Slovak father who lost his two sons to the ‘absurdity of Social Services’, as the TV reporter described it. BourneLocal and Rutland & Stamford Mercury picked the story up!

If you have lost your children, you may want to ask your MP to support this EDM. You can use Write To Them to contact your MP.

The text (with my emphasis added):

That this House notes that media reports in the Slovak Republic in August 2012 have expressed concern about the forcible adoption of the children of Slovak nationals in the English and Welsh jurisdiction;

further notes that on the Slovak Justice Ministry website a ‘Declaration on adoptions of Slovak children in the UK’ has been published which includes a statement which translates as ‘The Representative of the Slovak Republic in proceedings before the European Court of Human Rights and Director of the Centre for International Legal Protection of Children and Young People expresses serious concern over cases of adoptions of children with living biological parents who are also Slovak citizens without sound reasons, occurring on the decisions of the English courts’;

further notes that the Slovak representative at the European Court of Human Rights has expressed a willingness to intervene in support of complaints made by Slovak citizens about wrongful adoptions;

and calls on the Equalities and Human Rights Commission to explain why it has not intervened in support of complaints made by UK citizens about wrongful adoptions when the Slovak representative is willing to make such interventions.


About Sabine Kurjo McNeill

I'm a mathematician and system analyst formerly at CERN in Geneva and became an event organiser, software designer, independent web publisher and online promoter of Open Justice. My most significant scientific contribution is www.smartknowledge.space
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27 Responses to EDM 478: Human Rights and Forced Adoptions in the English and Welsh Courts

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  2. 7rin says:

    Whereas us adoptees just think all adoption should be stopped anyway ’cause it’s an unethical punishment of the child (annihilating their identity and depriving them of connection to their heritage) for the sins (real or imagined) of the parents.

    Anyone who truly wants to help adoptees (not like many of us actually had a choice, thus for the adoptee it’s pretty much always a “forced adoption”) needs to go sign http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/38120 and help us end the irrevocability of adoption.

  3. Have only now had a chance to read John Hemming’s ‘Family Justice Bill’; well, I read half way[ish] and skimmed the rest. Some credit to him for being one of a tiny handful of MPs trying to effect change in the Family Court System. However, whilst we have the Masonic Mafia behind the scenes running the show, children will continue to be At Risk and parents/grandparents/siblings… will continue to be broken. [This, of course is all part of the NWO slavery agenda.]

    Mr Hemming has listed good recommendations [I particularly like the one re grandparents {2 [3][4][5]}]. But there is no such thing as and there never will be an “independent body” {3[1][a]} overseeing matters whilst Freemasonry and other Secret Societies are in force. The answer is not only to remove the secrecy from the family courts so that we have full transparency and accountability, but that ALL Courts, Governments, Councils, Govt Agencies and the Mainstream Media are purged of their Masonic infestation and all corrupt officials brought to justice.

    Mr Hemming talks about Judicial Review and the unfairness of access to justice. He knows full well that the costs involved in this process is only one method the Judicial Mafia use to ensure victims cannot challenge the ‘people’ behind their injustice. [See my story of Masonic stalking on ‘Sharon Ann Kilby’s story’ on http://www.sharonkilby.co.uk] The only answer is for the mass of humanity to wake up and rise up. Until this happens the control grid gets tighter by the day and eventually there’ll be no such thing as Legal Aid or of Welfare of any description.

    If John Hemming or any other MP really cares about the suffering of children and families, he will expose the truth about Freemasonry. In my opinion it is not acceptable to be earning his generous salary/privileges/perks whilst only half-heartedly doing the job. The only people creating change and really helping children and families are those suffering extreme State persecution, and the most effective of them are languishing in [or facing the threat of] prisons/lunatic assylums or are lying in a coffin 6ft under. [AKA Maurice Kirk, Norman Scarth, Andy McCardle…]

    John Hemming’s Family ‘Justice’ [???] Bill amounts to weasel words; just more of the same time-wasting, useless paperwork. He too needs to grow a spine, go one step further, and tackle the REAL problem of Masonic influence in society if he’s to earn any kudos from the British people. However, he knows only too well that if he does so, he won’t be an MP for much longer and he’ll end up poverty-stricken – stripped of everything he owns and everything close to his heart; just like the rest of us on this site.

    • How do you suggest John Hemming does what you suggest, Sharon?

      Like everybody in any job, they can only do what is possible.

      And I am “satisfied” that he does his very best. If he knew better, he would do better.

      I get the impression he has packaged this text such that it is most likely to succeed.

      It is however, up to us, to make sure that enough MPs will be there on October 26th to hear it!

  4. Anonymous says:

    Hi Sabine,

    John Hemming may well be doing more than any other MP regarding the scandal of child snatching by the State, but he doesn’t go far enough. He needs to expose the Masonic connection if he wants to effect real change.

    Mr Hemming is a very intelligent, knowledgeable and experienced MP and he knows how Freemasonry and other Secret Societies facilitate the NWO slavery agenda. He knows that unless there is a huge shift in the human consciousness, there can never be “transparency and accountability” or anything “independent”.

    I don’t see him putting his head above the parapet. He’s working within the control matrix. That’s not going to achieve a great deal. What is he doing to expose the illuminati NWO? Has he ever stated publicly that Freemasonry is behind all injustice and is the reason for the systemic, rampant corruption in the courts and ‘authorities’? Has he ever asked questions in the House about the secretive Bilderberg conferences? Or raised concerns that our Queen is the HEAD of the Committee of 300, the ultimate Secret Society? Has he raised issue with the fact that the Queen and senior Royals head the dastardly drug industry and that they inflict immense suffering on billions of us ‘commoners’?

    Foreign Secretary Robin Cook was being too effective when he became anti-establishment; he paid the ultimate price for his bravery and suffered a ‘convenient’ heart attack.

  5. The above comment was by me; it came up ‘anonymous’ cos I was unaware that I wasn’t logged in!

  6. I’d like to add that in case anyone here thinks I’m attacking Sabine [the trolls would be having a field day if allowed], far from it; she is being very effective doing exceptional work uniting and supporting victims and publicising our experiences; however I just don’t share her optimism re JH. My view is that he could write as many EDMs and Bills as he likes, it wouldn’t matter if it became law, it’d all be a waste of time. Confirmation of this comes in the remarks of a Local Authority lawyer! Ernest Hemingway says, “I came across John Hemming MP’s draft family justice bill, which will be put forward as a result of him winning the ballot to put forward a Private Members Bill, and felt it was appropriate to write about it. Not because it will necessarily become law [very, very few Private Members Bills make it to Acts, because they don’t have the force of the parties and whips behind them] nor because I want to coruscate or ridicule it. But because, at a time when Family Justice Review is dominating the thoughts and actions of professionals, it seemed to me appropriate to look at how one of the staunchest critics of the current system would want to change it. I have to say, I was surprised, although I strove hard to have an open mind when reading the draft bill, how much of it I found sensible or unexceptional. I thought it would go further, and I almost wish that it had. If this is all that it takes to placate one of the staunchest critics of the family justice system, I would be prepared, were I an MP, to vote for very much of it, and object to relatively little.”

    If JH is not going to mention the secret shadow government in his bill, he could still effect change, as a high profile MP, if rather than wasting time in parliamentary meetings, he led REGULAR protests. It would be wonderful if he could galvanize his fellow MPs, some celebrities would be a bonus and of course the victims and stage regular protests outside [or in!] the BBC [or other Mainstream Media outlet] for their failure to broadcast the Truth on things that matte – the shadowy power structure, illuminati families, NWO enslavement of humanity…. He could start by protesting about Panorama’s disgraceful decision to pull out of airing the Hollie Greig story or he could protest about ‘Question Time’s refusal to have David Icke as a panelist, despite a petition and massive public support. Mr Hemming would have even more impact if he could persuade some high profile speakers of the ‘Truth’ movement – Ian Crane, Richard D Hall, Andy Thomas… to join him in protest.

    Like anyone who wants to make a difference, JH has to come out of his box – and be prepared to risk all; he’ll achieve nothing by working within the rules of the matrix.

    • Thanks, Sharon,

      I just think that everybody always does their best. If they knew better, they would do better.

      And we can never change anybody else. We can only change ourselves, however hard that may be…

      BIG SIGHS.

    • Letitia Beane says:

      Wasn’t Ernest Hemmingway an American author.

      What are the rules of the matrix?

      Isn’t David Icke the guy that told Terry Wogan that he was the son of God?


    Due to the continuing success of Victims Unite it appears that the trolls feel the need to ‘up the ante’. [For more on this subject see the comments on: “What is worse: getting your home or your children stolen?” 26/8/2012]

    For those of you who may be a little slow to understand, I will try to clarify.

    Sabine has made clear that this site is for Victims and Rescuers. Anyone else will not be allowed to comment here. The Victims and Rescuers are quite easy to spot: they are the ones who are busy working full time, doing honest jobs and caring for their families; and with the small amount of spare time they might have left, you’ll find them doing voluntary work of worldwide healing.

    Until such time as ‘Letitia Beane’ gets told to sling his/her/its hook, DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS TIMEWASTER and do not respond to anyone who you suspect of being a troll. Of course we all know that Letitia Incognito-Quisling will continue useless exchanges with his brother trolls who will keep on popping up in one guise or another. Poor things – so predictable; not so smart after all. But that’s ok; let them continue making idiots of themselves.

    Cockroaches are quite difficult to stamp out completely, but until we find a way at least we can continue having fun laughing at this sorry show of cockroaches and their futile efforts to disrupt this site.

    Anyone got time for a game of Spot the Troll? I’ll go first, ummm, let’s see, Francine Stover of the previous post???

    FOOTNOTE: Definition of a troll. Please note, there are two types, one is just a sad, nuisance attention-seeker, the other is more insidious, he is an Establishment troll and is defined as a spineless, slimy, smug, lying, nasty subhuman who earns a lucrative living leeching off the taxpayer; he hides behind a mask and shoots arrows from the safety of his Masonic lodge doorway.

  8. Strewth Sabine, 3 in 1 now? Your Site really must be bothering them. Here is some inspiration from Zen which’ll warm your heart: “Life is a struggle. How much more then is the spiritual life, the fight to remain conscious in an illusory world where deviant forces vie for control more than caring, battering your very body and soul day in and day out on top of your struggle to survive? Oh, we’re going peacefully downstream in the conscious dimensions. There we learn to let go and follow the flow of the Universe and synchronicity. But in this physical, lower density world, we’re fighting directly upstream. In addition, we’re living in a time of increasingly turbulent waters. Our kayaks hit all kinds of eddies and crosscurrents, never mind the rocks and rapids we have to navigate – all while idiots, enemies and doubters, prodded on by the propaganda whores, are screaming obscenities from the shore and trying to hit us with anything they can get their hands on! But alas, grasshoppers — we have powers they know not of!

    We’re in a warfare, any way you look at it. Only it’s not a warfare of hate, but of love. It’s not a warfare of physical violence, but a spiritual one of intention and a Truth directed life. The inherent cause of Universal consciousness is the dissolution of the ways born of ignorance and darkness by means of the all powerful exposing and enlightening weapons of Light, Love and Truth. The medieval matrix, no matter how fancy and hi-tech it’s become, is dissolving and losing its grip. And we need to actively help it on its way to oblivion. Don’t forget, non-compliance is a decisive action, not inaction. Inaction is going with the current of the matrix. There is no sitting still. We’re all doing one or the other. That’s the choice. That’s the battle.

    Similar to the poetic beauty of martial arts, the Truth warrior uses his weapons skillfully and with great discretion. While many argue we need evil for good to exist and all that esoterica, we happen to be living in a time of great imbalance. Do you enjoy having lords of darkness rule over you and yours, exercising more death dealing, spirit quelling control over humanity by the day? Didn’t think so. Will it collapse under its own weight? In many ways it has to. Will it do it all by itself? Then why are we here? As long as we’re here we’re part of the Great Design and need to do our part. All I know is that what I am finding out and tuning into calls me to participate. It’s as real as the sun and water hitting a seedling and the organism responding. If it’s not evident to you that our planet and civilization are under attack I do wonder how you got to this article. It couldn’t be any clearer. That’s why they direct the angst people are feeling, the knowing that something is wrong, towards fabricated “outside” enemies to divert attention from the real perpetrators. Similar to how religion co-opts, steers and contains the human soul’s hunger for the spiritual, the Controllers arouse, channel and misdirect humanity’s sense that it is being attacked and they literally harness what they themselves have aroused, using it for their own parasitic, vampirist purposes. Cattle prods and sheep dogs driving humanity into the slaughterhouse.”

    Here is a response to it which caught my eye: “It is important to keep the faith and understand that we are all where we are intended to be; so good to feel connected to others on planet earth, knowing we’re marching forward all the time together to a new dawn of human consciousness, understanding and love.”

  9. Dear Ron Bugunder

    Success can be measured by the amount of trolls Sabine has to block. She’s lost count as they’re coming in thick and fast. Not that she bothers trying to keep track; she’s far too busy getting on with her work. Luckily for us, she is of high intelligence and is able to multi-task, which means that she can continue to run this Site effectively despite the best efforts of trolls and people of low I.Q who try to waste her time with their stupid questions.

  10. The cockroaches are swarming. How did Jimmy Quisling slither back? Sabine, I’m wondering if its time for a warning on your ‘Mental Health’ header that all unrecognised names have to be validated before a first posting. Genuine contributors would sympathise and would understand when they see what we’re up against.

    The State Agent Smiths are so frustrated at their inability to sabotage this site that they’ve developed split personality disorders. Just recently there was the Bournemouth Echo troll Neal [Neil] Butterworth and his alter ego Andy Martin, then came multiple personality sufferer Letitia Beane and imaginary friends ‘Sam Blake’ and ‘Troll Hunter’. Perhaps Letitia Quisling has developed another imaginary friend Kelvin Mackenzie.

    If these unfortunates want to recover, they’ll need to develop a strong faith in God and an enormous amount of courage. I don’t hold out much hope. Illuminati defector ‘Svali’ explains mind programming here http://www.savethemales.ca/141002.html She says, “The survivor needs a positive spiritual belief system that offers hope, healing, grace, mercy and affirmation.”

    To continue on that positive note, praise be to the families of the victims of the Hillsborough tragedy. Their quest for truth took over 2 decades and required steely determination. Now for the justice; let’s hope they never give up until the bigwigs are prosecuted. The dominoes are falling…

  11. Sabine tells me that this Kelvin Mackenzie IS the ex Sun Editor and that Kevin Maguire IS the Daily Mirror Editor. I’m sceptical, thinking that trolls of this calibre wouldn’t reveal their identity. But if true then what better measure of success is it that the likes of these two feel the need to troll this site! What a sorry pair of sad, desperate individuals. Incidentally Kelvin Mackenzie your accusation of me being Sabine’s ‘Sockpuppet’ is the funniest troll comment I’ve read so far! I’d like to see you try proving it!

    • I can only go by the email addresses, Sharon. But I am told by a very authoritative source that neither the SUN nor the MIRROR like victims of ‘miscarriages of justice’ be called what they are: victims.

      But then life is the best script writer…

      In my experience, people who have never been victimised (yet), cannot even imagine that such horrible things are being done to people on behalf of public ‘authorities’ and institutions…

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  13. Ginny O'Brien says:

    In 2012 the adoption failure is twenty five percent. The ones that see it through are left with inate grief many trying to recover their birth parent . The adoptees are then left devastated with the reality you can never replace the birth parent.
    Look at Coopers missing persons. Vast numbers trying to find there birth parent.
    Thank goodness there is an MP willing to stop this .Read the Primeevil wound.
    It will people an understanding why forced adooption is morally wrong.

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